Shaaameee...
Of course I don't eat out much, save for my columns and when I go on vacation, but obviously, I love restaurants and am fascinated by the industry itself. I am not sure why everything lately has come into legislation question. See here...
I'm sorry, but... why can't people remain the judge of their own diet? We can choose whether or not to carry a baby to term but can't get the foie gras in Chicago. What is up with that?
If people are stupid enough to eat fried crap everyday and not as an occasional treat, then they deserve to be overweight and have chronic health problems. I am really tired of people blaming others for their own problems. Even the spilled coffee bit was the clutsy lady's own d*mn fault, and not the McD's problem for serving it too hot, because God forbid they would serve it too cold and she would get eColi or some bacterial disease and then presto! another lawsuit. Ah... rant over.
I WILL post about my wine classes sometime this century. Promise.
Just had an email discussion that got me really jazzed about trying some vino this weekend! Then there is that whole press kit that Roy's FedExed me with a sample menu. Hellloooo...MORE SELECTIONS THAN WHAT IS ON THE WEB. I almost fell off the arctrainer as I was reading it a few days ago. Friday will be a good meal, even if the proprietor is now aligned with a major chain restaurant.
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The problem of obsity does not just affect the individual...the public often ends up paying for the high medical costs involved. So it is a public health issue. I still don't get why people compare frois gras to abortion. But that is a whole other issue.
As far as the issue of the coffee lawsuit, It was discussed once before on a talk board and this guy summed it up pretty good:
"Claims that we are too litigious are usually a thinly veiled attempt by those profiting from the status quo to keep their profits.
Happy meals? When you eat a big mac you're signing up for 1,000 calories, not for the drug-induced cravings they serve you that make you eat another 4,000 excess calories the next week. McDonalds has been lying about its ingredients and disregarding evidence that its food is incredibly bad for people. They have been adding unnatural, unhealthy ingredients developed by their suppliers to save money and increase consumption. Now it finally comes out that the exotic new ingredients that affect people's metabolism and food regulation mechanism. These chemicals were simply not part of our diet beforehand. They didn't warn us, didn't even tell us, and it's not something a consumer has any way of understanding. These ingredients kill. It's as bad as lacing the food with a drug, like the tobacco companies did.
Spilling hot coffee? The 79-year-old woman was a passenger in a drive through window. The coffee was far hotter than a home coffee machine or Starbucks --- 180 to 190 degrees in fact, nearly boiling. Hotter than all recommended safety standards. Have you ever accidentally poured boiling water on your clothing? It causes third degree burns in 2-7 seconds of contact. When it soaked through her clothes it gave her third-degree burns over 16% of her body, her crotch region, necessitating skin grafts and causing two years of disability. Her physician said it was one of the worst burns he had ever seen. She asked for $20,000 but McDonald's refused to settle. In court she eventually won $500,000. McDonald's knew about the risks for ten years from 700 men, women, and children already burned by their coffee, something it refused to do anything about. Customers did not expect that the coffee was that hot, and McDonald's didn't warn them. There was no reason other than convenience and saving money why it had to be hot.
Both cases are widely misrepresented by pro-big-business politicians and lobby groups in an attempt to shield themselves from liability. All they want to do is make money by killing people.
Those who deride women for standing up for their rights in the workplace, same thing. Law is not perfect but it is better than the alternative, it is fixing a huge social problem. Businesses are just after an easy profit.
Don't be their dupe."
But its junk. Junk makes one obese!!!!!! People cannot understand this? wtf? I really had more faith in the human race.
A cheeseburger and fries is not healthy and OF COURSE it's loaded with calories. DUH!
It's all about choices, that's all I am saying. Don't take away my right to choose if it is already there.
Same goes for abortion, foie gras, cheeseburgers... I wouldn't choose any of those for myself, but I am not the boss of others.
Starbucks and the Chrysler PT Cruiser are much more abnoxious than McDonalds in my book.
Last time I checked, coffee from McDonalds is gonna be um, HOT.
Unless the cashier deliberately splashed the coffee in the woman's face ala wizard of oz wicked witch & water style ... I don't think that amount of litigation was righteous/necessary.
I could have sued the hospitals and doctors over my drug reaction, but its not like he made me sick on purpose...
It was my fault for taking the drug. Oops.
I have ALWAYS burned my tongue/legs/other body parts my clutsy self has spilled or ravenously tried to chow/chug--be it soup or other hot menu items like coffee from somewhere. Until recently a lightbulb went off and now I place icecubes in my heated liquid items if I feel the need to ingest them right away. This tip was provided free of charge. You can thank me later.
I have to agree on the coffee, it should be hot, but not skin graft hot. I mean, that means she literally had flesh boiled off of her. I would have sued too.
As for NY, screw that, if you order fatty food, you know what you are getting. If you have a question about if something is trans fat or not, ask. I like deep fried, and my foie gras. Let me have it.
Power to you, K!
Lucky you for Roy's! I hope you enjoy it!
Eh. I just read the trans fats article. I'm all for banning them, they are created in labs and were used as a super fat additive to create longetivity in food that would otherwise spoil, or go bad and lose the "good mouth feel". There's perfectly good fried food that is made with normal fats found in nature, both animal and vegetable. Perishable should expire naturally.
Trans fats are NOT found in pate, and NOT in goose liver. Cholesterol and saturated fat, sure. But a normal average goose raised for liver pate does NOT contain trans fatty acids. I cannot vouch for geese in labs.
I don't think it's a diet/choice thing. What they said was not all fat is created equal and if it's harmful, pull it. Sorta like Viox and other crap. The article pointed out that "labeling" is not good enough, because it's not like milk that comes from rSBT treated cattle. That stuff is purportedly harmful and not in any level of consequence. I still won't give it to my daughter. That's my choice.
When something is made with a harmful additive, like when certain red dye was pulled and replaced with innocuous stuff, it's not a "choice; I don't think you are seriously arguing that people should be allowed to eat fake chemical additives that are harmful; you were stating that based solely on calories and information, people should make choices. But surely you recognize that you don't have the choice to go to Mc'D's and have a non trans fatty acid treated burger? The fat and calories have nothing to do with it.
And yeah, there's a lot of food additives that should probably be pulled.
And yeah, they discover new bad things every day and yes indeed, we need someone to pull items that are bad.
And don't forget Amy...putting ice cubes in coffee ruins the integrity of your drink. Who would want watered down coffee? If you have to do that...then you better ask McDonalds to make your coffee stronger Kristy. You can thank me for that tip later.
Just thought I'd show some support for you here Kirsty.
We're told pretty much every day that McDonalds has dodgy stuff in it. People are still choosing to eat it despite that. If they're unaware of what goes into the food, then that's their fault. There's enough information out there for them to find out.
And I totally would argue that adults who want to eat harmful chemical additives should be allowed to. Believe it or not, some people don't care much about what they put in their bodies so long as they have their burger. They LIKE the flavour and texture the trans-fats impart. They prefer that to something healthy. If they're adults then they should be allowed to control what they eat.
I use coffee ice cubes when I am at home....
and I dont get coffee from McDonalds or starbucks, either. *yawn*
and I am on vacay. me so lucky... :) workin home the hotel.
thanks for the support. ros.
So, what about tobacco, what is everyone's stance on that?
Why are we outlawing it EVERYWHERE?
That is something else I don't do, but I don't want to take away the privilege of someone else to do if they so desire. I would hope people would practice common sense and not smoke directly in contact with their kids or other kids. But, those are the same types of people who eat cheeseburgers and spill coffee on themselves. Why are people sooo quick to play the victim?
Now, the old was one case, and OK, I admit that I didnt know the lewd & crewd details, but I was speaking generally about ridiculous lawsuits with fast food companties. There is always someone blaming big fast food for their thighs rubbing together.
I also think there was more than one coffee tipper. I feel bad for the old lady. Can someone post a link to her story? Thanks.
It's unfortunate she had to experience the pain and suffering. It sounds like something far worse than I have ever gone through (I reference this because I had mentioned sparing my doctors from litigation over my drug reaction).
You sounded at the end of your comment as if the settlement she receieved was not enough (which maybe it isn't). But, what do you see as justice in her case? I am just curious.
You sound pretty livid at McDonald's. Or me or both, not sure. Curious now to know if you have eaten there since the coffee incident.
"If a 79 year old granfather lost his nut sac to a cup of coffee, that entire company would be out of business. That's a fact."
That may be a fact, but what do you base this on... I think it's just the general belief that because there is discrimination against women then it extends to every aspect of life...but funding for breast cancer treatment for years been proportionally much higher than funding for prostate cancer, even though tons of dudes die from prostate... and when John W. Bobbit got his unit cut off it was treated like a joke, but if he had done something similar to his wife, I doubt that Jay Lenno would of made jokes about it. So the idea that just because we as a society discriminate against women generally, we therefore treat them more poorly in every instance does not seem to have good evidence to back it up, but it you have some it would be interesting to read
I tend to agree that MacDonald's was at least partly to blame for serving their coffee so hot, but on the transfat issue, would you ban climbing mountains like everest because doing so is lethal a very high % of the time. A lot of these arguments you make are pretty weak, and when they're delivered with the "what an idiot you are" attitude, it makes them even less palatable...
cam10
Why do we have to agree on everything to like/respect each other?
Also: I stopped eating at McDonald's regularly about five years ago. Though, their Monopoly game fires up again today and ohhh man... does that only help fuel my addiction to fast food!! Always in recovery...
I have never ordered coffee there and the last time I bought anything there it was a diet soda or vanilla cone. So, I am not a McD's advocate either. I used to eat there (on average) twice a day (damn, it was yummy and man it was convenient) when I weighed in the 150s and didn't exercise and yes, I was overweight caused by my actions and my choices (not because I didn't know what I was eating).
Wingnut
I said that while the US has admitted problems with sexual prejudice, it does not extend to absolutely every facet of life. I gave two examples...
instead of addressing my examples, your characterization of my claims was "Cam chose to attack a verifiable fact that women are treated inequally in this country and said that there were no proper studies to back up anything that alluded to that idea."
well that's not really close to what i said but i guess that in combination with calling me "truly stupid" you think that you nailed that argument. I must say that you do have remarkable powers of insult, but i don't know why you can't stand disagreement without stooping like that.
no hard feelings, at least not from me, and i appreciate the openness of this forum, but i guess speaking your mind in a courteous way just makes some people see red and that's kind of a sad comment
-truly stupid cam
p.s. sorry my blog is down, but i took it down just cause i don't like name-calling, but i guess there's no escaping it any more.
Thank you for posting Cam.
I love discussion. I hate personal attacks based on disagreement. Please post and continue to post whether or not you agree or disagree with something I say. Please do not post to intentionally insult or personally attack someone.
It's not very ladylike to poo on someone else's lawn. :)
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